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I thought he was remarkable. he talked about a college degree not being "the thing" that you have to have in this country. half of the folks last year didn't have a college degree. this is like music to the ears of a lot of americans out there. are you sensing this same sort of shift as well? >> i am. i also heard tim say that he propose every k-12 student have a coding experience. i think that's terrific. i'd still be in the 11th grade if that were the case. but let's move on from there. it's the right thing to do. that's what needed in the economy today. college isn't -- that experience, tha...

Entirely reasonable. think about who boehner is speaking to. he is speaking to wall street. wall street is onboard with obama and saying between don't want anybody playing with this debt limit at all. the last thing we want is something getting screwed up with all of our u.s. treasuries and all that stuff. so that's -- that's a tight spot boehner is in, does he go with obama and wall street or does he go with his base and the tea party. that's a difficult position he is in. >> i think tim carney very -- tried to side step the core truth. i was trying to promulgate the republican plan adds $6 t...