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are you just doing it in a bigger platform with the entire house of representatives? >> no. there is a very clear distinction between what we are doing and what they have done in weaponnizing the judicial system. they are undermining the people's faith in our institutions. our system of justice system. what we are doing is the opposite. we are trying to adhere to the rule of law. >> that was republican speaker of the house mike johnson this afternoon saying that the republican party is just trying to adhere to the rule of law. now, a few hours were that interview, speaker johnson mad...

that. thank you, my friend. today has been a lesson how every accusation from the republican party these days is really actually a confession. >> are you weaponizing the house the same way you say the democrats were weaponizing the doj to get what they wanted? are you just doing it on a bigger platform from the entire house of representatives? >> no, there's a very clear distinction in what we're doing and what they are doing. what we're doing, neil, is the opposite. we're trying to adhere to the rule of law. >> that was republican speaker of the house mike johnson this afternoon s...

Obstacle to his efforts to win a second term. >> right? it says something about maybe getting convicted on 34 felony counts is not a boon. but one of the tightest senate races in the country, tim shihi is trying to run on trump's conviction to win a senate race that could decide the control of the upper chamber so everybody is looking at this differently. jamelle with the new york times. thank you very much for being here. >> thank you. >> we have a lot this evening including revelations about a secret plan to influence democratic lawmakers like house democratic leader hakeem jeffries. we will...

Recognize this was a big victory for the former president, so him being convicted on 34 counts, which i was surprised it was all 34. him being convicted, it stands to reason it is an obstacle to his efforts to win a second term. >> it says something about the wurl in which we're living in we have to reiterate maybe getting convicted on 34 counts is not a boon. in one of the tightest senate races in the country tim shihi, and john tester he's trying to run on a senate race that could decide the upper chamber. everyone's looking at this differently thank you so much for being here, my friend. ...