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Crimes while working for donald trump. i think that's what makes him so interesting. he was a most intimate adviser, setting up deals aall over the soviet union. that's what he is doing. so he is not some sort of random person. he is somebody right in there in the trump organization, while he may have been doing things. we haven't heard yet, whether the southern district is going to charge him. >> we should say, of course, cohen says, clear my family and country, not president trump, it's his first loyalty. what do you think about the time line as floated in the "time's" article which is possi...

That's what he is doing. so he is not some sort of random person. he is somebody right in there in the trump organization, while he may have been doing things. we haven't heard yet, whether the southern district is going to charge him. >> we should say, of course, cohen says, clear my family and country, not president trump, it's his first loyalty. what do you think about the time line as floated in the "time's" article which is possibly before labor day. >> this is a moment of truth for michael cohen. he has to get serious and quick. one he is in the process of cooperating. there is some evid...

Mcgahn, the president tut put i. he is driving trump's successful efforts to fill the courts with conservative judges. >> that, includes, okay, supreme court nominee brett kavanaugh mcgahn escorted to capitol hill today. though reporters were interested in a different topic. >> why did you take so long to the special counsel, mr. mcgahn. >> were you afraid the president would betray you? >> do you regret that decision? >> will you continue to comploo i? >> have you briefed the white house on everything you told the special counsel? >> mcgahn has been involved in most of the key events in muell...

>> so i'm going to be a little contrary here, chris, say i see where the president is coming from when he says this is a bit old news, my colleague, bob costa and i wrote in november when don mcgahn went before bob mueller's interview team, sat down with verdicts two days straight so people have known for a long time that don mcgahn was cooperating with the investigation, that everyone who was in the white house was encouraged to voluntarily be engaged in these interviews. now what we do know now is that after the week stories, by the "time's" don mcgahn's attorney has alerted and assured trum...

That constitutional norms that have governed our country for hundreds of years would say, no. now, if he does it, who can stop him? the answer is congress can top him. we have a mechanism for impeachment. >> or possibly the courts. >> possibly the courts, depending on how he does it. in the future after he leaves office a president can be prosecuted if he commits a crime like obstruction of justice, that's why nixon needed the pard frein ford many years ago. it's a total subversion of the system to say the person supposed to execute the laws faithfully can undercut them for the benefit of his ...