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Does provide us with [speaker not understood] in the cases. And he we would like to continue to have a City Attorney. We would like maybe a slightly bigger budget so that they could sit with us for the last hour. Usually 9 oclock is when theyre cut off. So, its not something we can push forward. Wed certainly appreciate it. And as mentioned also, it would also be quite helpful to have them in our committees. Given a choice, yes, in the full task force, if thats all we can budget [speaker not understood], if there is a maybe an up and coming junior attorney that could use some more exposure, we...

Sunshine ordinance requires that the Sunshine Ordinance Task have separate attorney and on most matters are generally that that attorney cannot confer with other attorneys in the office. I believe i have i did not speak with that attorney at the time about the advice that was given. At that time i believe the attorney for the task force advised that there was a risk that the task force would be in violation of the ordinance if it continued to meet and i believe the task force chose not to meet. Currently my understanding is that mr. Occa who meets the physical disability requirement as holding...

City [speaker not understood]. Thank you. Okay. Any questions . Great. Again, just for all the reappoint ease, wanted to ask your thoughts about operating within the parameters of the Sunshine Task force in terms of your role in conjunction with the City Attorney and confines of operating within the city charter. Absolutely, the City Attorney was invaluable. Like said before, he or she does provide us with [speaker not understood] in the cases. And he we would like to continue to have a City Attorney. We would like maybe a slightly bigger budget so that they could sit with us for the last hour...

Two years of discussion and were the Ethics Commission and according to the sunshine ordinance the only people we can discipline are elected heads and officials and so if you have a complaint against a line employee your response from the staff is we cant do anything, so these things go back and forth and you know. You can say the task force knows what its doing but every single time the task force sends awe recommendation you find or the staff finds a reason to find fault and if you think its at fault and you acknowledge the fact that part of the responsibilities as a body is the enforcement ...

Public comment . Commissioners, i promised at the last meeting as this comes up every meeting im going to be talking about different area. I would like to talk about area two, investigation and enforcement reports and says at the bottom sunshine ordinance number of complaints and with that is the extent of the sunshine ordinance. Look on your website. Part of your responsibility is enforcing the sunshine ordinance and every time the Sunshine Task force refers a complaint you sit here and kib etz and talk about the fact this isnt clear and this isnt clear so when are you going to do something a...