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and founder of the eurasia group. they might also have a view on new research that suggests home working...is not working. google, apple, meta are among those who now demanding their workers spend at least three days in the office. we talked in the first hour of the programme about ukraine's path to nato membership and the obstacles in the way of that. let's concentrate this hour on some of the things that have been achieved at this nato summit. notably, the path that's been cleared for sweden to join. we brought you the news last night on this programme that turkey had dropped its v...

Does it bother you? >> it bothers me because it doesn't surprise me. this is the exact war plans that that they are proposing will replace having people like myself and those a lot smarter and courageous than i ever was there on the ground gathering intelligence, keeping us safe. listen, when president trump was president and he said he was going to pull the troops out of afghanistan, i took that the same way i took every time president trump went to the bully pulpit and made these big declarations. it was a challenge to our military leaders to do better. when he said we're going to pull out b...

He was thinking of other options to maximize victims. options we have seen in suicide attacks in places like europe. why pick this option? why not a truck bomb or backpack bomb? i don't know why he chose this option instead of others that he appears to have been thinking about. >> also, james, it does appear these weapons, according to the investigators so far, it wasn't about a pluck buy. that he had been building them up over time. you think that's a window into some really long-range plot or he was a gun enthusiast that turned into something else. >> chris, it's hard to tell at this junctur...