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Long time. there is no one i'm aware of in the country, in the private sector with more experience and resources in knowing how to handle an investigation like this. >> well, gavin has had the reputation of being the best in the business for the past 25 years. so his involvement alone bespeaks a major concern. >> yeah. and tim o'brian, you have been studying donald trump's relationship to david pecker, who runs the "national enquirer." the idea, the idea that they were trying to, in effect, extort out of him a statement that the "national enquirer" does not have a political agenda. >> right. >...

Journalistic and legal perspective, including someone that spent 28 years at the nation"national enquirer." we're joined by manuel, who has been in the awkward position of covering this story for the washington post, which is owned by jeff bezos and has been covering it thoroughly and professional. also tim o'brian is with us. he has studied donald trump's relationship to david pecker. and joyce vance is here to cover the legal points for us. she is a former federal prosecut prosecutor. and we're joined by jerry george who spent 28 years at the "national enquirer," including as the los angeles...

Government entity might have gotten a hold of his text messages. >> and jerry george let me go back to you because as the los angeles bureau chief i'm sure you know of gavi nerks debecker. he is the person people in los angeles turn to for security and personal protection. he has a large firm and provides all sorts of services. he has been doing this for a long time. there is no one i'm aware of in the country, in the private sector with more experience and resources in knowing how to handle an investigation like this. >> well, gavin has had the reputation of being the best in the business for...

In effect, federally guaranteed. so the 30 days of pay some people will be out is no real reason why they shouldn't be able to get a loan against it. >> this afternoon, the president was asked about his commerce secretary's remark and offered up this explanation. >> i haven't heard the statement but i do understand that perhaps he should have said it differently. local people know who they are, where they go for groceries and everything else. i think what wilbur was trying the say, they should work along. they've known them for years. the grocery store, and i think that's probably what he mean...

I think what wilbur was trying the say, they should work along. they've known them for years. the grocery store, and i think that's probably what he meant. >> harkening back to the day of the corner grocery. tim o'brian, executive editor of bloomberg opinion and the author of trump nation, the art of being the donald. and nancy cook, white house reporter for politico. so tamara, tell us about the effect of these test votes today. as we said, there is nothing like watching, figuratively, republicans walk across the aisle to join democrats to get the attention of the majority leader, ergo, the w...