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At work, tim. take us inside the mind of donald trump in this situation. >> let's unbundle it a little bit, too. as he's either tired or he's stressed out. there is no doubt that he's focussing on this much more than he's focussing on trade agreements with canada, with national security with north korea, what's happening with migrant children and their families at the border. he is focussing on the detail of his persona and his reputation far more than he is on the wheels of the federal government because this kind of a thing cuts to the core of his own paranoia. he wants to be the center of a...

Administration. david, tim, thank you both for joining us tonight. and when we come back, robert mueller's investigation has intersected now with the brett kavanaugh confirmation hearing. that happened today. that's next.

We will impeach him. then what you will have is a country that's going to turn in to a third world country because if the opposite party becomes president, every time before it even starts, before you have found out whether or not he or she is going to do a great job, they'll say we want to impeach him and you'll impeach him. it is so ridiculous. >> tim o'brian, so he begins with, i don't even bring it up. >> right. >> he brings up impeachment by beginning with the phrase, i don't even bring it up. >> right. and the president who's governing the country said if the opposite party gets into pow...

There is now no way for donald trump to forget that there is, as "the new york times" op-ed headline put it, quote, quiet resistance inside the trump administration. joining us now, david corn, washington bureau chief for mother jones, an opinion writer for the washington post and co-author of the book "one nation under trump" and the author of "trump-nation." tim, i want to go to you first because you know donald trump well. you got sued by him. you beat him in that lawsuit. here he is surrounded by people tonight who are saying trust us. it certainly wasn't any one of us. and then immediatel...

Make people care about him and make his success their success. i think barack obama did the same thing. the clinton administration was bumpier than that. the reagan administration was more bumpier. but the president gains loyalty, not just by the way he hires and not by punishing people, but by inspiring people. that is clearly the thing that donald trump is unable to do, even among his closest intimates even within the people nearest to him in his room. >> and as anyone who has worked for an elected official can tell you, there is nothing that binds the loyalty more strongly than admiration f...