We're working towards that goal. as we've said before, the north koreans have made that offer and we've accepted and we're moving forward in that process. >> i was going to ask about -- title xiii, 221. it says you can be fined if you don't answer the census truthfully. no one's been fined dating back to 1970. would the white house support the idea of fining individuals that don't answer the census or fail to answer it honestly? >> look, the goal is to have data that we can use for specific things. we think that having accurate data is important. i'm not aware of a mass campaign to start finin...