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Would help newt gingrich. rick perry was the poster child for the conservative movement and herman cain is, might be, and if he drops out, newt gingrich will take that support. >> jehmu, that's the question. if he drops out, who gets the votes who might or wise have gone to cain. what say you? >> i agree absolutely, newt gingrich has a much better chance of taking those votes because no one has seen mitt romney be able to actually appeal to social conservatives in this entire republican primary, so, they've been bouncing from cain, to gingrich, to bachmann and they will probably go now back to...

And evangelical christians because of background you talked about. >> it's real. >> also, talk about being a governor, a decision-maker, a job creator, more in mitt romney's face. so romney's the wan one -- excuse me. perry's the one in the middle strategically, which is the place to be. we do retail, jennifer said, raking in money. get a lot of the people who endorsed tim pawlenty in iowa. tim pawlenty did it the traditional way. collecting endorsements from mayors and republican state committee men and so on. most of those people i think won't go to romney because they could have before. now...

About $161,000 in government aid to bachmann & associates, government funding. it does raise some questions about some of -- that are bound to raise questions about some of the bachmann's assertions about cutting back government programs. >> michael, listening to what she told chris wallace about that money going to the clinic. >> this was a one-time training money that came in from the federal government. it certainly didn't help our clinic. it was something that was additional training to help employees. >> can you fact check that for us? >> yes, i did. first she's referring to that grant i ...

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