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To these allegations? >> i became clear very quickly that this is something they could not ignore because of how much evidence was in that repor from propublica. this ha happened before. he's ha ethics scandals issues in th past and it's one of those things where he and his wife and his family have been in th news for a very long time over the last couple of years. this is one of the big ones tha they couldn't ignore. >> eugene, andy, i'm so grateful to bot of you for joining us to eugene, i want to tell you, we took bets on what colo turtleneck and blazer you woul be wearing -- >> who won? >>...

Eugene, i'm gonna go ahead and start with you. i set it in the opening. i'm gonna say it again. we knew the vote was gonna fail this week. and the white house knew the vote was gonna fail this week. vice president harris went up to the hill to preside over the vote, she does that when these things are important to the white house. what are you hearing now? >> they know, the white house, in the administration, that this kind of little they can do that will fundamentally alter -- its first weather trying to do is -- talking to people about making sure that in the midterms that they get more sena...

They are also looking at ways to nibble around the edges, discussing whether funding for the medicaid or some other mechanism can give people money, funds, to travel to other states for abortions. they're talking about all the things they can do, but they know that all the things they can -- regulatory actions that this administration can do, are also possibly gonna end up in court. that's something the republicans have already said they could start doing. but hopes that folks turnout in the midterms and give them more people. this is something, that republicans have been working on for decade...

Time. stevens wrote a good book about this called "it was all a lie." there is nothing factual on the mccain platform in 2008 still has immigration reform, the cap and trade to deal with the climate. you can have plenty complaints of the 2008 campaign john mccain ran, but that is very different than what you see in 2020. i think it's true that it's certainly gotten worse over the course of the past decade. i think just looking at this year, the key points, to eugene's point is after january 6, if we all remember back to january 7th, i do remember that there was this moment, kind of a moment of...

Have their committee assignments back. they will be back on committees if republicans take control. so, um, none of that stuff is all that bad according to today's republicans. but um, sex and drugs -- that's another story. >> our friend peter baker who will be on the show a little later had the best take on this where he said i lived in washington my entire life. i could have been invited to the wrong parties. what is interesting here, though, is that this is as to eugene's point, this is the line that was -- could not be crossed. we heard -- who did get stripped of committee assignments and ...