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this day of mobility, they're outsourcing, they're relocating and expanding faster in foreign countries than they would over here. they're hiring less people because a higher corporate tax rate goes right to retained earnings. they have less money to hire people. if you don't believe it, just look what's happening with the the states, brenda. we've seen states that have lower tax rates and attracting business and talked about this last week, as a matter of fact. and to indiana, i believe, that has lower tax rates and attracting businesses from other states with higher corporate tax r...

unemployment if it continues. look, if it says that higher corporate tax rates don't affect unemployment they've never worked in business at all. here is what happens, we've already seen this, corporate tax rates remain high. what are companies doing in this day of mobility, they're outsourcing, they're relocating and expanding faster in foreign countries than they would over here. they're hiring less people because a higher corporate tax rate goes right to retained earnings. they have less money to hire people. if you don't believe it, just look what's happening with the the states,...

economy is at stake right now. because of the higher prices. >> gary b. you're seeing the same sticker shock, does it worry you as much? >> no, and no. to be dtsdz. >> what do you really think? >> well, look, look, if everything that we, you know, every dollar that he we made was spent on either food or gasoline, i'd be in todd's corner. but you know, we spend our basket of spending is on a lot of things, it's on electricity, it's on natural gas. it's on dining out, for example, and overall, inflation, even though we've been talking about it constantly is still under 3%. as far as ga...

predicting 25% increases just this year alone. gas is up 6%, it continues to rise, and it's not going to stop soon. all of us need to be prepared and the economy, the global economy is at stake right now. because of the higher prices. >> gary b. you're seeing the same sticker shock, does it worry you as much? >> no, and no. to be dtsdz. >> what do you really think? >> well, look, look, if everything that we, you know, every dollar that he we made was spent on either food or gasoline, i'd be in todd's corner. but you know, we spend our basket of spending is on a lot of things, it's on...

see is people driving to and from work. i drive a car and this is going to hurt me. every good i buy is transported from the manufacturer to the retailer. and passed on to me. when i go to the store, i'll buy something, higher than a few months ago and the bigger thing, confidence, if i walk by a big screen, and see gas at $5 then i'm not buying anything. >> brenda: gary b. you're he not sure about that. basically everybody continues to spend even if they're spending on gas, but fuel, basically the economy, doesn't it? >> precisely, brenda. two points, i guess, one the credit suisse ...