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bears, let's get to it. gary b smith. tobin smith. jonas max ferris, and the economic policy institute's kristin dorsey. welcome gary k will the triple whammy whack the economy back into recession. >> i'm going to be the the scrooge here, i think so. there's just a lot of things happening all at once that tell me, there's a problem ahead. number one, we're looking at european interest rates to skyrocket and there's no absolutely no confidence there, the numbers out of asia now, particularly china have been headed south and then you add to our 15 trillion of debt, which is, i believe,...

gary b smith, tobin smith. jonas max ferris along with today shotodd schoenberger. gary you say as goes ohio, so go the cuts. >> absolutely, brenda. if you're on the super committee and you're on the fiscal austerity side, you're quaking in your boots right now. in an ohio backed union proposal, what they really backed was floated pensions, outrageous salaries, outrageous hiring practices, nonexistent firing practices, all the things that we need, the opposite side of which to turn this country around and show some fiscal soundness. instead, ohio went the other way and i tell you wha...

gary b smith, tobin smith. jonas max ferris along with today shotodd schoenberger. gary you say as goes ohio, so go the cuts. >> absolutely, brenda. if you're on the super committee and you're on the fiscal austerity side, you're quaking in your boots right now. in an ohio backed union proposal, what they really backed was floated pensions, outrageous salaries, outrageous hiring practices, nonexistent firing practices, all the things that we need, the opposite side of which to turn this country around and show some fiscal soundness. instead, ohio went the other way and i tell you wha...

penn financial group matt mccall and former advisor to dick gephardt, steve murphy. welcome to everybody. will these executive orders, the white house is whipping out. whip up the jobs? max? >> well, we've had since obama's become president, 20 plans passed aimed at getting economic activity moving here in our country and so far those not happened. so i do not think having five more this week and start ago website for businesses is something has me hiring people and anybody else out there hiring, a lot of unknowns out there right now. we don't know which plan or initiative is going t...

Added 200,000 federal jobs from '09 and happens to be a fact. the real issue, it's not just this job, this person with the job in the capitol. there are three other jobs dependent on them in the outside. i live in the beltway area, the contractors, subcontractors, and sub-subcontractors, that's not reasonable and it's a private job. >> do you deny that the unemployment rate would be below 9% if government workers weren't cut every month as fast-- >> we're talking about the economy and at some point in time the economy gets stopped because they can't support all of the spending and that's the i...