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Johnson's fellow conservatives was stark in his criticism of president biden for criticizing the afghan forces and also calling for a real coalition outside, absent the united states, to do whatever is possible to try to as he put it hold the line in afghanistan. he said patience has shown to be successful, and the implicit suggestion there was the united states showing a real lack of patience here, hallie >> mike, it's important reporting, thank you. toby, let me go to you on this. we now know that we will hear from defense secretary austin, coming up this afternoon, secretary austin is going...

What are the logistics moving forward? how is this going to happen? why hasn't he come out and spoken yet? the president has, the commander in chief, not the defense secretary. that happens this afternoon. toby, how important is it based on the people that you're talking to that we hear from secretary austin and what do they want to hear from him? >> hallie, thanks for having me on the show. i think in a situation of chaos and peril, which has been outlined so well people want to hear from ed looers and want to be reassured. they want leaders to own the situation and they want to hear practica...

Negotiating team in doha, looking at a situation really of great danger and concern and people want to hear from mark's leaders how they're going to deal with this situation. >> toby, mike and ken, thank you, and courtney and richard off doing more reporting i know. thanks to you all. more from secretary austin as we said and also to president biden, who will speak on something else, rolling out plans for a covid booster shot for most of us, we're going to answer your questions about it, next. plus, we're taking to you the first day of school in one district, looking at potential punishment ...