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>> you don't get to aaponymous and beer in the same sentence. toby. what do you think about that? >> they are taking costs out but beer sales are flat and the growth is outside of canada. i love you, patrick, but i don't love that one. >> and mr. prop man, what do you say? >> it is back. remember acorn and they got in trouble and they will rebrand themselves and want to call themselves like the new york community for change. international paper and why international paper you ask, brenda? >> i do ask that. >> because they have to print all the pamphlets like this one how to stuff ballot boxes,...

>> yes, it's a silly idea at root because excess inventory we have is the biggest thing preventing the market from clearing, preventing the real estate market from recovering. until the market clears, you get run up recovery. this kind of policy wouldn't help that in the slightest. >> your blood pressure is back down. toby, you go ahead. >> this is always the rule of trying to do well for people and actually hurting people. so in a couple ways. number one, when someone takes over that home that shouldn't foreclose, according to the real estate association, they spend $8,500 on new stuff. nobod...

This bit? >> there is no costless way to reduce carbon emissions. it's what you want to do. there is no costless way to do that. it costs money whether you call that a tax or cap and trade, i don't care what you call it, it costs money. and the problem with trying to sell it politically as we'll offset this with jobs created elsewhere, it doesn't work. if you think that reducing carbon emissions is a laudable goal, it will cost money for the economy. >> okay. toby, i got to give you the last word. >> well, finally, i'm going to say, pat is right. when we look at the cost versus benefit, like a...

Three blizzards in as many weeks putting the green agenda on ice. is that exactly what this economy needs? toby? >> the economy is jumping up and down and saying, thank you. you just can't see it 'cause we got the umbrellas on. look, even the dems have finally come to the conclusion that all the ideas that have been thrown out here are basically fraught ridden, horrible for the economy and finally when they started to put the math to it, they said, you know what, this would kill the economy if we put this stuff through. so let's sort of forget we even talked about it. i love it. we call it the...

Three blizzards in as many weeks putting the green agenda on ice. is that exactly what this economy needs? toby? >> the economy is jumping up and down and saying, thank you. you just can't see it 'cause we got the umbrellas on. look, even the dems have finally come to the conclusion that all the ideas that have been thrown out here are basically fraught ridden, horrible for the economy and finally when they started to put the math to it, they said, you know what, this would kill the economy if we put this stuff through. so let's sort of forget we even talked about it. i love it. we call it the...