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Nature. where does he fit in in this increasingly crowded field? >> i think van thihits on great points. you can see it in the introductory interview, he's got the marching band. it feels very young and fresh. cory booker is someone people have known about for years. if you go back to 2002 there was a "new york times" magazine article that said he would likely be the first black president that. was in 2002. of course now he's trying to be the second black president. i think his path looks a lot like obama's. in many ways kamala harris's does too, not only that you do well with african-american...

Beliefs. >> you think that the american people are eagerly interested? i talked to elizabeth warren everyday. >> yes. >> i don't. i think that the american people want to know how to provide health care or people, and let's discuss it and how the take on the greed of the pharmaceutical industry and how to end this terrible war in yemen and the fact that two senators get together to chat becomes a big deal, that is a real problem for the media that we should be thinking about it. >> but, those of us, all of us who cover politics, believe that d democrats now confronting a big, a big class of pe...

Everybody else. would you believe that baited toe o'rourke strong candidate -- for where texas is heading? >> i absolutely do. if you recall when governor rick perry was here, he was traveling around the country and going to many blue states and talking about moving to texas because of the economic environment. the conservative policies here have allowed for, you know, the incredible economic growth, the vibrancy. but what is interesting is that as these individuals and these corporations are leaving places like california, illinois, new york, new jersey, you have it, they are bringing the sam...

Things. i think there are candidates on the ballot who are exciting voters, voters who are less interested in politics. they find a reason to vote, not just against desantis, but for andrew gillum and bet toe o'rourke and stacey abrams. look, there's an indictment of what the president is doing abo. everything david jolly said is the tone, the tenor, the hateful chaos on the campaign trail. that's juicing up the president's base, i also think it's creating a larger counter response in the country. >> and to zoom in on some numbers inside the early voting numbers, the under 30 vote, which is th...

Voice, to continue to raise your voice at certain points politically, or have you even felt your way through what that's going to be like? >> i'll let you know after tuesday. >> okay, we will hear from you when we hear from you on this. captain sullenberger, i can't tell you, this is one of the great honors in the history of this show to have you at this table. i really appreciate you coming in tonight. >> thank you, lawrence. >> really appreciate it. when we come back, we'll have more numbers from the campaign trail, we're going to get a report from texas on the o'rourke/cruz campaign in te...