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Individuals that are injured beyond the ones that they've reported, is this a barricade situation, is it a hostage barricade situation, i'm sure they'll wribring no hostage negotiators. they'll keep that place clear, try to locate his vehicle, find out what the cause of this -- this is going to be the big part of it is why did this individual do this, is this something related to a domestic event or is this something related to some other nefarious event and we just don't have all that information in yet. >> sureme. i'm just thinking of all the patients and families who are in that hospital. a...

And now, you know, you have a bigger concern for the whole entire area. how do you lock down the whole area if they don't me the where the shooter is. >> right. well, apparently the reporting is, tom, let me just jump in, the line from the police now is that they are actively looking for the shooter, so they don't know, at least, they're not publicly saying where this is. >> it's a huge problem because if you're talking about a building like a hospital that has -- that person is -- if that person is still in the building, they're going to have to look in every closet, under every bed, you know...

On tubes and machines. as this is all happening, the challenges for police. i was talking to art roderick about how you secure a scene at a hospital. tom, same question to you. how do you secure a scene here? >> well, there's only so much you can do to secure it. if you have the police on the outside, assuming the person hasn't run away, oftentimes -- >> forgive me, let me jump in. we just got information. the new york police is saying one shooter is dead. i don't know if there are multiple shooters, but i'm being told one shooter is dead. go ahead, tom. >> it's interesting we don't know more ...

Principal bomb maker in yemen is creative and innovative. most bomb makers are not. if they make a bomb and are have their fire extinguishers and toes after it goes off a, they don't change the recipe. he does. he's tried bombs in body cavities on his own brother. >> his own brother. >> he engineered the printer cartridge, the underwear bomb. all of these things are invas n invasions you have not seen other bomb-makers ace tempt. that makes him dangerous. he could have couple with a new method we don't know about yet. >> thank you, tom fuenes, jim scuitto and bob behr. tropical storm arthur ...