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Whoa, nelly. because it's one after the other. and see, every time trump lies, i've been using the #trumpliesmatter since the election. so now what we have is not just well, cohen said something in a television and then trump lying in a tweet. now we have someone standing before a court saying, yes, i was directed to do this. and so then we play the tape. trump on air force one saying, oh, no, i didn't know anything about it. he talks to fox news, well, i knew about it later on, but i paid out of my own money as if that's a totally different deal. every time he opens his mouth he is simply mak...

American court system. we had his campaign chairman be convicted of eight felony counts and we had his long-time personal lawyer plead out to eight felony counts and implicate the president in two of those felony crimes. so it's not that the news is new because we've seen lawlessness from this president on virtually a daily basis. but what is new is the courts are saying this -- you can take this to the bank, it absolutely happened. >> so, rolland, there are a lot of democrats in congress and grattic leaders who don't go as far as tom does. they're cautious about having conversations around im...

Corruption that is so much a part of his life and his administration. but i don't think we can deal with the real issues facing americans until we get rid of a dramatically reckless, dangerous and lawless president and get on with our lives. >> ali, what this is doing, what tom is doing -- forget the folks in d.c., okay, because they're going to always be cautious. that's why ideally their messaging doesn't matter. it's what happens in individual congressional districts. what is happening here are you're seeing americans who are saying integrity matters, okay. at some point it can't be, well, ...

Interests. what is a little bit unusual in michael cohen's case is that he doesn't have the past experience that a former u.s. official would have. that is at&t we know hired him for his expertise at the fcc -- >> of which he has none. he has a phone, that might be the level of expertise. >> has some expertise in taxi and the trump business but fcc matters, nothing that i know of. >> and defense contractors and accounting. it is a mystery why he was involved in any of these businesses. as you point out, it may not be illegal. tom good to see you as always. tom hamburger with the "washington po...

Back you're with g.w. news i'm sarah kelly in berlin our top stories south africa's chief prosecutor has said that he will charge former president jacob zuma with fraud racketeering and money laundering presidency was marred by accusations of corruption and he was forced out of office last month. and british foreign secretary boris johnson has accused russian president vladimir putin of personally ordering the poisoning of a former double agent in a british city britain had previously said only that the nerve agent originated in russia. and let's get more now on that story we are joined by con...