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for hallie jackson. we'll start with the affidavit news. joining me justice and intelligence correspondent ken dilanian and former fbi general counsel senior member of the mueller team and an msnbc legal analyst andrew wisen. thanks for being with us. ken, let's start with what judge is doing. the judge has that redacted version from the doj of the affidavit. what are some scenarios of what could play out next? >> good afternoon, lindsey. well one scenario is that the justice department convinces the judge that so much of this affidavit needs to be redacted, that there's no point in ...

Tailored to serve the integrity of the ongoing investigation. we've been talking about the three scenarios all day. looks like a scenario where the judge and justice department agree on a set of proposed redactions and that they've decided that some part of this can be released is the scenario that is coming to pass. >> we're all still reading it as well. andrew, want to ask you some of the same questions we just asked you at the top of the hour, just a mere 40 minutes ago and how things might change now with this order to unseal. what we might be able to clean from this affidavit by noon tomo...

Want to redact pieces of that. now, we all have some idea of what happened, but, you know, very may have a lot more information than we do, including, for instance, the precise conversations with the national security division at the department of justice, the precise conversations with the national archives and who made them, so i could see the department of justice potentially saying you know what, this precise content and who said it is off limits. >> all right. tom, ken, andrew, really robust discussion. thank you to all of you. lots more news ahead. vladimir putin beefing up the russian...

No doubt, a victory for the interveners in this case, which is nbc news, a number of our competitors, and a number of the major national newspaper outlets. >> ken is back along with andrew, an msnbc legal analyst. we heard tom winter lay out the significance here. what's your read as well? >> looks like it's a very narrowly tailored order that essentially upholds most of the government's reasons for wanting to seal this, for all the reasons we've been talking about, the sensitivity of the investigation, identity of witnesses, but that there is some sliver of information that the judge believes...