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Effect he would like it to and it's happening against the backdrop of 2024. he's testing out his ability to be a pingmaker and to have influence over the party and we're seeing the impact of that. >> testing out his ability to be a kingmaker and mitch mcconnell is testing and preparing for when he has to get involved, essentially opposing the former president. listen. >> the states that are going to determine who's in the majority at that time, you have to appeal to the general election audience, and some of the candidates who are this these primaries clearly aren't. i'll be keeping an eye on ...

Her own terms and people were impressed with how she had done it. she seemed to have an independent image, not seen as too trumpy, if you will, but also loyal to trump. >> weren't those remarks pretty -- wouldn't you say she was pretty trumpy this morning? >> well, that's what i'm saying is now, a year later, she's really thrown herself into one side of the divide within the republican party. she's definitely subscribing herself to the trump side and she's saying basically in effect she thinks he's going to stick around and she might want to be part of the ticket. and if not, she might want to...