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Believe that? >> i do believe people are -- i think they've had enough of this. we saw las vegas earlier this year. we all learned about something called the bump stock. i had never known what a bump stock was prior to las vegas. i do now and i support the legislation to ban the bump stock. certainly we need to enhance background checks on private sales. that was the so-called toomey proposal that would also further refine the instant check system to make sure more data is being inputted into the system. we also have had proposals too from senator collins on the no fly list making sure that an...

Significant. now, a lot of members hadn't heard what a bump stock is but i think it's remarkable that in just the last 48 hours that congress is going to act. we haven't seen that in a long, long time on guns. >> fair point. but do you think it's a way for them to avoid a more meaningful conversation on gun control or gun control legislation by saying -- how can you disagree? everyone agrees on that one issue. >> it's a defensive measure, no doubt about it. if they fought this, it could be worse. without a doubt, they are willing to take this narrow measure but not background checks, the manch...

Gun control legislation by saying -- how can you disagree? everyone agrees on that one issue. >> it's a defensive measure, no doubt about it. if they fought this, it could be worse. without a doubt, they are willing to take this narrow measure but not background checks, the manchin/toomey proposal. >> similar question but slightly different, chris. the nra's joining the effort to restrict these bump stock devices, as you heard our colleague say that. but they are calling for the atf, not congress, to deal with the situation. how important is that distinction? >> important. because remember, do...

To proceed with the debate. will you be one of the 60? >> i will vote -- i will vote to debate this on the floor. it's why i came to washington, d.c., chris. the senate is supposed to be the biggest deliberative body in the world. we need to deliberate on this issue. we need to have a good debate, have a good conversation and figure out what can work for this country, protect our second amendment rights while keeping the weapons out of the hands of those who don't use them in a proper fashion. >> will you then vote among the 60 necessary to proceed to voting on the measure such as this manchin...

Will you be one of the 60? >> i will vote -- i will vote to debate this on the floor. it's why i came to washington, d.c., chris. the senate is supposed to be the biggest deliberative body in the world. we need to deliberate on this issue. we need to have a good debate, have a good conversation and figure out what can work for this country, protect our second amendment rights while keeping the weapons out of the hands of those who don't use them in a proper fashion. >> will you then vote among the 60 necessary to proceed to voting on the measure such as this manchin vote, the manchin/toomey pr...