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defend his department. >> there is a lot of speculation about what the justice department is doing, what it is not doing, what are theories are. what are theories aren't. and they will continue to be that speculation. this is the most wide ranging investigation and the most important investigation that the justice department has ever done. and we have done so because this [inaudible] effort to upend and general election transfer of power from one administration to the other, concept of the fundamental of american democracy. we have to get this right. >> garland was not wrong, this is...

to criminally investigate donald trump for -- 2020 election including the events of january six. the crescendoed bill through this summer as they were televised saying explosive revelations about what was happening in the white house in and around january six. but that committee had no ability to charge anyone with anything. only the department of justice did. and from what everyone could tell, at least from the outside, not a whole lot seem to be happening over at the doj. by july, attorney general garland felt the need to speak out and defend his department. >> there is a lot of sp...

justice department is doing, what it's not doing, what the theories are, what the theories aren't, and there will continue to be that speculation. this is the most wide ranging investigation and the most important investigation for the justice department has ever done. and we have done so because this [inaudible] effort to upend and general election transfer of power from one administration to the other, concept of the fundamental of american democracy. we have to get this right. >> garland was not wrong, this is the most important investigation that the justice department has ever e...

Seem to be a ground up investigation. there seem to be a lot of focus on the unnamed january 6th rioters. and i know at least some legal minds, including andrew weizmann, said this is the wrong way to go about this. we should look at this as a top down conspiracy. you have a top down pyramid right there -- not quite a pyramid, but you know what i'm saying. you're looking at key players and the trump administration, the trump circle. do you think but that is what the doj is now doing as well? >> i think that's what the doj has been doing all along. merrick garland was under a lot of pressure ri...

This topic, as much as we've exhaustively chronicled the misdeeds of donald trump to be talking about a former president and saying the words murder conspiracy, and money laundering, if we can put that graphic up again, and look at what you think is a former assistant u.s. attorney, the president could be charged with a staggering -- i don't think we should lose sight of the gravity of all this, and the people named in the center of this. one of the things that seems to be happening at the outset of the doj's investigation is it seem to be a ground up investigation. there seem to be a lot of f...