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And waiting, hoping the movement starts to go around somebody. since iowa when bachmann stepped aside, we have seen a shift. we have seen a shift toward perry and gingrich, quite honestly. ron paul has a huge following. i think south carolina is going to be a game changer. the movement is going around those cants. gingrich had strong ground game in south carolina for a number, i mean for months actually. perry has been there working it, too. it's going to be difficult to tell what's going to happen. those tea party activists in the state are engaged and want to make a difference. this is their...

>> his position if you are here illegally, that should be a crime. well, a lot of conservatives believe that is a crime and i talked to some people in new jersey who live there and they say he has a lot of liberal positions. i don't know all of them but i think all of that will come out. >> the judicial? >> yeah. >> the think the one issue that probably has hurt governor perry the most is the in state tuition issue. >> yes, it has. >> this issue came up about perry and he commented on the sunday shows about it. that's about perry, i guess he went to this hunting camp. his family never owned it...