Some of the stands they have taken. so i think that the problem was that he was selling something that we have long not bought in the civil rights community. >> reverend, let me also ask you, you heard the news story i just read before we turned tower segment. congressman meeks subpoenaed. at issue now is what became of money collected by a charity that he set up to help katrina victims what do you make of this? >> well, again, we will see where it goes. i know congressman meeks. i take him at his word. he has certainly served well. he says there's nothing there. there's always all kinds of in...