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By efforts to marginalize him and say you are just an aberration. he's not an aberration. among the birther, secessionist militia, margin on the far right, this racism is one of the elements, it's like a toxic undercurrent. it has long fed the ideology of these folks. conservative republicans and sort of -- maybe less intelligent talk show types who jump on the bandwagon, the anti-government bandwagon, beating up on the new shiny object, the bureau of land management, without thinking about two steps ahead, wait a minute, who is this guy and what's behind some of this rhetoric. >> late this af...

Elements, it's like a toxic undercurrent. it has long fed the ideology of these folks. conservative republicans and sort of -- maybe less intelligent talk show types who jump on the bandwagon, the anti-government bandwagon, beating up on the new shiny object, the bureau of land management, without thinking about two steps ahead, wait a minute, who is this guy and what's behind some of this rhetoric. >> late this afternoon, bundy gave another press conference where he tried to explain what he meant and it actually ended up sounding offfully familiar. >> i'm wondering are they better off with th...