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>> they talk about the first two to three first years of life as the most important, the immediate span of time. if you have kids preverbal, you have little children that age being separated from their parents there's no telling what that does to a kid for the rest of their life just in terms of their own development. >> absolutely. the brain develops most rapidly between birth and three years of age. that's when we want positive experiences and positive relationships to build that brain architecture correctly. what's happening with these kids is that the trauma is causing something we refer t...

Center of this noise, the confusi confusion, politics and posturing, dishonesty are 2300 kids. 2300 kids are scattered across the boarder region and the entire country having endured the kind of tra uma we heard on the recording. audio of a child crying out for her parents. we found the mother incarcerated. first some of that audio of her child obtained by propublic. joining us is rosa flores.

Is for these kids. we remember the fear of being separate frd a paren-- separatea parent. the governor was talking about the trauma the kids are going through. there's the trauma in the many unknowns of when and how they will actually be able to be reunited with their parents. it's one thing to be separated, it's another thing to not know what the future holds. >> absolutely. the kids that can tell you they are traumatized are telling you this. we're seeing anxiety. the kids i seen are the really little ones. some are preverbal. all they know that one foundational relationship in their life ha...

In any event, for me, you have 2300, 2500, who even knows what the number is. i tried to get hhs, health and human services, to tell us how many children were in the state today so i can provide help. they won't tell me. i don't know that they even know. in any event you have 2500, 2700 young people being used as political pawns, traumatized. this is a trauma that can last them a lifetime. it's really that kind of traumatic situation. >> what i don't understand is when general kelly was head of homeland security, he was publicly raising this idea of separating families when he was running it. ...