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Was on that jury to convict him of second-degree murder. and when you think about it, i think that they just took into account what george zimmerman said was the truth. trayvon wasn't here to tell his story. but the mind set of that -- that juror, some of them had they minds made up. >> it's obvious they would be stunned by that verdict given i've interviewed them many times and descent people who have been through a terrible ordeal, their son was killed. race element of this is a contentious one. if trayvon martin had been a white teenager, there would be huge issues, wouldn't there about the...

Seriousness it deserves and that we're going to get to the bottom of exactly what happened. >> that is now a famous sound bite from president obama about a month after the death of trayvon martin. we want to bring in congressman chaka fattah and congressman grijalva. you have been in meeting with the president this week and not about this particular item and we'll get to that later but first i want to talk to you about your reaction to the verdict and the reaction afterwards which generally seems to be that the justice system is still unfair to minorities. your take congressman? >> i think the...

Race element. what we're exposing, 500,000 people omitted, that's immoral and bad public policy. it's hurting blacks, whites, republican, democrat. we're doing 25 tours using this document and we've had a house full of people every day on our tour, blacks and whites coming together and saying this is wrong. >> you know, this is really in many ways the great transforming hope of the south. >> that's why the virginia/north carolina story is so fascinating. you are talking the old confederacy. you're talking the south south south, right, and you're also talking a place that barack obama won twice...

Promote it is it's helping a certain group or make it a race element. what we're exposing, 500,000 people omitted, that's immoral and bad public policy. it's hurting blacks, whites, republican, democrat. we're doing 25 tours using this document and we've had a house full of people every day on our tour, blacks and whites coming together and saying this is wrong. >> you know, this is really in many ways the great transforming of the south. >> that's why the virginia/north carolina story is so fascinating. you are talking the old confederacy. you're talking the south south south, right, and you'...

North carolina. >> that's the myth of extremism, that they think these services like medicare, the way they promote it is it's helping a certain group or make it a race element. what we're exposing, 500,000 people omitted, that's immoral and bad public policy. it's hurting blacks, whites, republican, democrat. we're doing 25 tours using this document and we've had a house full of people every day on our tour, blacks and whites coming together and saying this is wrong. >> you know, this is really in many ways the great transforming of the south. >> that's why the virginia/north carolina story i...