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Politics, things aren't always as they seem. i think this help this president so much, he can make a joke about it there, talks about it in abc on his interview. he paints his opponents as extremist, the media follows up saying there's a race element to it. in the end, it's offensive to many, many people, but politically, it may be good for the president, that his opponents tried to frame him this way. >> i think that's exactly right. at this point, you could argue that it does potentially help him a bit. he couldn't do this if your buddy, mika, the donald were out there leading the birther ch...

Was was a few months before that the tea party had not gained prom innocence this controversy you are talking about now is based on this meeting in may of 2010 at the white house. >> greta: did you get the sense this is a friend or foe? one of those hot button items if we get it in any way wrong we are not fair to everybody involved in the discussion or we take it out of context it is hugely painful. >> i don't want to take it out of context either. i believe this was a friend. somebody that admires president obama. and was trying to draw him into a discussion of what was then happening around...

Was was a few months before that the tea party had not gained prom innocence this controversy you are talking about now is based on this meeting in may of 2010 at the white house. >> greta: did you get the sense this is a friend or foe? one of those hot button items if we get it in any way wrong we are not fair to everybody involved in the discussion or we take it out of context it is hugely painful. >> i don't want to take it out of context either. i believe this was a friend. somebody that admires president obama. and was trying to draw him into a discussion of what was then happening around...

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The other thing is a race element. when you see a caricature which is a doll of a black person you think of the old lawn jockeys, and that's offensive. is there truth to that? >> maybe if you are going to read into that. you can always put a glove on them and say you are having a catch. it is the president and not just some random black guy. he is the president. when you caricature somebody you make their head and face bigger. >> giant ears. he has huge ears. >> so shouldn't the burger king's head be super giant? >> or go with the opposite direction and make it small. >> that would be better. ...