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There is an agenda with these talks? ., ., ., , talks? i mean, taiwan will be near the _ talks? i mean, taiwan will be near the tap _ talks? i mean, taiwan will be near the top of _ talks? i mean, taiwan will be near the top of that _ near the top of that list, certainly will be on china's side. china has said again and again taiwan is the most important issue in the bilateral relationship. i don't think washington necessarily seesit think washington necessarily sees it that way, they would frame at a different way, it's china being more aggressive, notjust with taiwan china being more aggress...

The problem is there's been little to no response on the chinese side. and you know, it's very easy to say that the u.s. and china should cooperate more, but it takes two to tango, christine. if there's no willingness on the chinese side to engage in, for example, just climate change talks, just for one example, then there's not much progress to be made. so, i think that's the real problem. >> and there are also logger heads at trade. the biden administration has not backed away from trump's tough trade policy on china and adding limits on exports of chips and chip technology. so the tension o...

Wants, such as easing up on taiwan, easing up on hong kong, easing up on the uyghurs or stopping its overall economic or military expansion and aggression. and the u.s. is not about to give china any of its concessions either, meaning looking the other way while the uyghur genocide goes on or abandoning taiwan or stopping its confronting of china's trade practices. so there's really no room for anything positive on either side. so i guess putting a floor under the relationship is the best we can do. and again, i think steven was exactly right. this is a relationship that's set to go down even ...

Looks like a pattern of economic containment. it is a pattern of economic containment. in that sense the biden administration ramped up the trade and technology war. but the chinese government hasn't stopped any of its unfair trade practices either. this is why i think despite a nice meeting they may have over the next two hours, none of these fundamental differences between washington and beijing are going to be solved any time soon and the relationship will get worse before it gets better. that's the reality. >> well, we're going to hear from the president at 8:30 eastern time. president bid...

To china now — where as you've been hearing germany's chancellor olaf scholz is about to hold talks with president xijinping. he has said he wants to �*further develop' economic ties between the two countries. chancellor scholz is being accompanied by some of germany's top business leaders. china has been germany's biggest trading partner since 2016. but there has of course been growing concern in europe and the us over china's trade practices, human rights record and territorial ambitions. joining me now is katy silver. the hang seng has absolutely soared — what's going on there? and is...