In rules, mandates, legislation, we could live with that. >> we get the tax cuts, we get the regulatory cuts, but we get these trade difficulties with china and the rest of the world. could that slow us down? >> i think trump has to talk tough on trade because he wants it. i think behind the scenes there will be a lot of bilateral trade agreements and it won't be as bad as john thinks. >> and he is a negotiator. everything that comes out of his mouth is the first stage in a trade process. you've got people like wilbur ross who is trading with china all the time. >> wilbur has also made some tr...