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Listen, i'm shocked that you don't have republicans -- the first thing you would have said is you don't do stuff like that and then you pivot. you don't even make the pivot. you go straight ahead and say this guy is only under attack because he's being effective. you know that's not true. >> and i want -- >> one of the problems is this is not napping a vacuum. there is one more chapter. in the sense that we've heard about excesses by ben carson, by men uch inwhether it is 130,000 dloorz or $130,000 lunch tables or jetting around to see an eclipse. this is one more instance of what we're seeing...

>> yes, we've been friends about five years before that, perhaps that's the most important part of the foundation of the story which is that after a racially motivated shooting dylan ruth comes in to start a race war in the city that started a civil war. for me to turn to trae gowdy a white guy from the state with a rich and provocative history op race said a lot about the foundation of are our friendship and how unlikely friendships can transform the story, republican or democrat, black or white, even if you don't philosophically fwree on the issues. if you can form an unlikely friendship ame...

Of dollars to go to disneyland that is just not true. i understand that the level of defensiveness. we want to defend people on our own side. but we're hurting the country when we defend anybody doing anything. listen, i agree with you. scott pruitt is very effective at hurting america's environment. he has done everything he can to increase the amount of poise an and pollution in our country. and for that, you might want to applaud him. but that does not give him a free pass to take advantage of the country's purse strings. listen, i'm shocked that you don't have republicans -- the first thin...

Can a divided america find common ground? i'm back with congressman trey gowdy and senator tim scott. with in re new book. i started read going last night. you started off talking about mother emmanuel church that's how you start the book. you guys have been friends a while though, right. >> yes, we've been friends about five years before that, perhaps that's the most important part of the foundation of the story which is that after a racially motivated shooting dylan ruth comes in to start a race war in the city that started a civil war. for me to turn to trae gowdy a white guy from the state...

And how they did it. it is really why did -- what is the evidentiary trail that they are following? there is nothing there. >> sandra: now we're set to hear testimony from bruce ohr, a closed-door hearing today, andy mccabe december filing tomorrow. trae gowdy over the weekend saying mccabe may not be the deputy director for long. >> it's troubling. they have a lot of explaining to do. they have to tell the american people what's going on. the f.b.i., you know, it's one of the great institutions in america. we have to preserve that. so we can't let these bad apples, you know, strzok and these ...