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but is this the kind of help that this community really needs right now? joining me is the founder of staying true to america's national destiny, pastor ew jackson. a tragedy loss here. now what's we're seeing in terms of consequences in terms of protesters is he the answer? >> he needs to march back to new york to msnbc. i want to point out the irony, we have this happening while we have the first black president, the second black attorney general, a city in which there is a black mayor and a black governoring structure. it tells you something is wrong with the leadership. al sharpton represents that leadership when you have this kind of reaction where you have black people in effect in control. >> i thought one of the mistakes people have been pointing to is that of the mayor. when she said we gave space to destroy. and these are not peaceful protesters we see violence we see riots, fires.

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