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but he's not going to do the deal, not on this roll call. maybe not today. chris jansing, my colleague is going to take over this roll call. watch with steve kornacki. this has been an extraordinary day already. we have another flip here. >> we knew it was going to be historic. steve kornacki, what did we just seethe? i want to go back to steve. what are we looking at? >> mary miller from illinois, another one of the holdouts, she also flipping over and voting for mccarthy. that means there have been 13 folk who is have voted against mccarthy previously and now 7 of those 13 have fli...

You have had had a lot of of sources inside the negotiations. how did they get here? and from your perspective, how high is the hill they have to climb, if kevin mccarthy is going to get the speaker's gavel? >> i hate to say it, but this is when the real trouble starts. like getting the 10 to 12 was the easy part, this was where my reporting has been these are the people that were the good faith negotiators. the ones who they thought they could peel off with tangible offers and negotiations. that's what they have done. whether it's on the lowest threshold for a motion to vacate the chair. whet...