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The -- the west has a thousand-year war with islam is islam was ever expanding. when islam began to contract it collapsed. and the caliphate was eliminated. now they've established a caliphate. they are dead serious about expanding it. unless we begin to take back that ground and make this caliphate, you know irrelevant in the eyes of the muslim world or the radical muslim world we are going to have a bigger and bigger problem. so the key is to act promptly and to make sure that america is involved. we have to have -- i said today in my speech here at cpac we could put forth 10,000 troops in a...

The -- the west has a thousand-year war with islam is islam was ever expanding. when islam began to contract it collapsed. and the caliphate was eliminated. now they've established a caliphate. they are dead serious about expanding it. unless we begin to take back that ground and make this caliphate, you know irrelevant in the eyes of the muslim world or the radical muslim world we are going to have a bigger and bigger problem. so the key is to act promptly and to make sure that america is involved. we have to have -- i said today in my speech here at cpac we could put forth 10,000 troops in a...

So you put men and women in a war zone, they're still in a war zone. >> reporter: taliban attacks are down this year from 2013. but secretary hagel's visit comes during a new wave of taliban violence in the capital kabul. what's the most concerning thing you've heard from commanders that scares you the most? >> i think this country, first of all, has made tremendous progress. where afghanistan was five years ago, two or three years ago, is hardly any comparison. but it still has threats. al qaeda, taliban. they have built the afghan security forces, a very strong security force institution. so...

>> reporter: one thing we are hearing, jake, at the moment is this statement has been delayed. we don't know how long. we don't know how long we'll be waiting here in the briefing room. just a moment ago one of the staffers at the white house informed us that this meeting that the president is having with his national security team and if you look at the list of participants in that meeting, it may explain why this is taking a little bit longer than expected. everybody from the secretary of state on down is right now behind closed doors with the president in the situation room. so we're waitin...

Troops of whom two-thirds to three quarters would be americans. they would be very much in a training role rather than a -- out there patrolling type role. so i think those of us who believe it's necessary or it's helpful to have a residual force, i think we're feeling a little optimistic, especially as a result of this election date. >> i also want to ask you, sir, about ukraine, because i understand you spent most of your career in eastern europe. in fact, you spoke at princeton thursday, and you talked about inefficiency of sanctions. you were joking that you tried to put sanctions on milos...