Don't see what you could get out of a one-on-one meeting like that. and will he even remember what was said at that point? and will he cover the main points? i tell you, i couldn't. >> and general marks, 45 minutes, you've got translation time, but the president's made it clear from this morning. >> it's all about -- >> it's all about the one-on-one. >> it's all about him and kim and how they'll interact. the big concern as bob indicated, you're in the room, starting this conversation, these are very high stakes, and you're trying to size this individual up. who is picking up the different cue...