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Talking about restoring government competency about transparen transparency. it's sort of the overall impression of multiple problems at once. what is really going to be difficult for this administration moving forward. >> right, i think it is that question of transparency that has disappointed so many people on the left who really believe in obama and believe that promise of openness in government after the bush years and are instead seeing a lot of briefings and in some cases, a worsening of that situation. more, twice as many leak probes by this administration than all previous administrati...

>> there will be someone after barack obama. >> absolutely. that's exactly what the president said in the state of the union, that the people of the united states have to have a rationale for what their government does beyond somebody saying it's the right thing to do. and i think that's, look, that's why early in the administration the president discussed the torture memos at the national archi archives. that's why the president, and i want to emphasize this, john brennan has led the entire administration on this into understanding that if we do not give the american people a better legal und...

And lulling me into a sense of complacency when she doesn't have what she needs. so while i think that we shouldn't have an overemphasis on the test and that is happening in some places, we have to have some accountability. >> and that leads to the yes question of standardized testing. it's a one size fits all measureme measurement. what do you say to that? >> i think we can always do a better job of making sure that we have great assessments, but we have to have a starting point. and we cannot continue to have school districts that produce generations of kids who cannot read and write on grad...

Street there's not enough tra e transparen transparency. bernie madoff offering his position on the problems with wall street in a christmas eve letter he sent to the fox business network. madoff says the more trade are kept confidential the more valuable that information is. he says this lack of transparency leads to insider trading. more than 50 years in jail for scamming thousands out of 20 billion. head nothing better to do than to write the letter. >> the information is at risk of being stolen or destroyed. the state hoetdz true for confidential data at fore stun 500 companies. it uses co...