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Say that. And did he ask you to pledge loyalty and there would be nothing wrong if i did say it according to everybody that i read today but i did not say that. And did he ask for a pledge of loyalty from you. Thats another thing he said. No, he did not. He said those things under oath. Would you be willing to speak under oath to give your version of events. 100 . I didnt say under oath. I hardly know the man, i didnt say i want you to pledge allegiance. Who would do that . Who would ask someone to pledge allegice under oath . Who would do that. It makes no sense. No, i didnt say that, i didnt...

Take the bark off the tree honesty. >> matt, this was, i hasten to remind everyone, infrastructure week andhe head of goldman sachs lloyd blank fine is a very serious person by day. you know the argument is that goldman sachs supplied a lot of those big west wing jobs. but he delved into comedy this evening when he said just landed from china, trying to catch up, how did infrastructure week go? there is that subplot about this paralyzed west wing. matt, is it true? >> i think it's absolutely true. i think their coms director resigned or was forced out about a week ago and we see they just can'...

We may have to take on this question of what makes a better witness. you've been around james comey in public life. we've all kind of been around the president. back when he was just donald trump. who makes the better witness? >> well, i think that's pretty obvious. i mean the fact that he also take contemporaneous notes. i was in many meetings at the white house with jim comey. the thing about jim comey, that he does speak truth to power. it's very hard -- people don't understand how hard it is to disagree with a president of the united states or tell the president something that he doesn't w...

He said one of the qualities he admired most in him was his loyalty. yes, i think loyalty is valued above all else for this president into rick, because of what the president kind of set up today, because of that valentine he mailed to mueller, we may have to take on this question of what makes a better witness. you've been around james comey in public life. we've all kind of been around the president. back when he was just donald trump. who makes the better witness? >> well, i think that's pretty obvious. i mean the fact that he also take contemporaneous notes. i was in many meetings at the w...