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Become more -- mounting new legal restrictionings on access to abortion, whether it's the forced ultrasound bills or whether it's bans on when you are allowed to have an abortion, or hoops that you have to jump through in terms of waiting periods. obviously they think they're going to be able to chip away at abortion rights in a state by state way without getting to the question of -- are they trying to avoid one and they think they can. >> i think they are both trying to see if they can chip away at no basically the tree trunk falls, and at the same time, they're also happy to get up to the s...

To avoid one and they think they can. >> i think they are both trying to see if they can chip away at no basically the tree trunk falls, and at the same time, they're also happy to get up to the supreme court and make a full run at having rowe overturned, if you understand the seriousness behind these laws, but the real impact of them is what we need to be paying attention to. you talked about texas earlier, district court in texas found that their law that makes a trumped up regulation that you have to have admitting privileges, they found it unconstitutional for good reason because a third o...

Constitutionality. are they trying to avoid one and they think they can. >> i think they are both trying to see if they can chip away at no basically the tree trunk falls, and at the same time, they're also happy to get up to the supreme court and make a full run at having rowe overturned, but you understand the seriousness behind these law. but the real impact of them is what we need to be paying attention to. you talked about texas earlier, district court in texas found that their law that makes a trumped up regulation that you have to have admitting privileges, they found it unconstitutiona...