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He's going to push back on mueller. he's going to push back on all this. you know, as he always does. he has actually another rally on thursday, so we're going to be seeing him two to three times a week coming up these next few months so he'll have a lot of opportunities to talk. >> elie, just to confirm proper lawyer behavior, rudy giuliani starts talking about this pre-meeting and as jonathan points out tonight, this "daily beast" story leads us to believe that maggie haberman of the "new york times" was calling around about a pre-meeting. you're not supposed to introduce a negative story in...

You know, as he always does. he has actually another rally on thursday, so we're going to be seeing him two to three times a week coming up these next few months so he'll have a lot of opportunities to talk. >> elie, just to confirm proper lawyer behavior, rudy giuliani starts talking about this pre-meeting and as jonathan points out tonight, this "daily beast" story leads us to believe that maggie haberman of the "new york times" was calling around about a pre-meeting. you're not supposed to introduce a negative story into your client's life unless it's been your practice to go out and grab t...

Thursday. so we will be seeing him two to three times a week coming up these next few months so he will have a lot of opportunities to talk. >> just to confirm, proper lawyer behavior -- rudy giuliani starts talking about this pre-meeting. as jonathan points out tonight this daily beast story leads us to believe that maggie was calling around about a rumor of a pre-meeting. you are not supposed to introduce a negative story into your client's life unless it's been your practice to go out and grab the bad stuff and try to take ownership of it so when it does some out it doesn't seem so bad. >> ...

Case and then you get to do it for fra for real if they indict you later. the problem with impeachment is the normal rules don't apply. i was lead counsel in the last impeachment, one of my opposing counsel was adam schiff and we had colossal fights over the departure from standard trial practice, due process rules. all of that tends to be discretionary for the senate. they choose their own rules and so what you have is a process that criminal defense attorneys really don't like but prosecutors have to sit back and watch your defense, watch how witnesses play out and then if they want to indic...

We'll watch fallout over the next couple hours. >> gene robbertson, there are few things that take a sharper mind than standing in a federal courtroom in litigation as rudy giuliani has done, but has not done for decades now and when the president chose him as a so-called member of his legal team, it looked to some of us he was choosing him more as a spokesperson because rudy giuliani is so far out of trial practice that he's just -- it just doesn't have that swing of the bat anymore. and he certainly proved that tonight when it came to the stormy daniels case and sean hannity asked him some v...