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About his views on the politics and the economy and he agrees with the president on many issues. he advised him on tax cuts and immigration, a big agree. when it comes to tariffs, that is a big question. he calls them prosperity killers. >> that was gary cohn's issue. >> it's hard to find a bona fide economist that likes tariffs. kudlow has called them prosperity killers and could cost five million jobs in this country. think about that. the president today saying he changed his mind. i guess we have to wait and see. kudlow big trickle-down guy. believes capitolism is a solution to all problem...

12 people killed. safety issues. these issues will come up. >> he's got very well-defined views on very big economic issues. taxes, for instance? >> for sure. he is very much a trickle down guy. he believes if you cut corporate tax rates, give corporations incentives to brick bang cash overseas at low rates that will boost investments, jump-start growth in america. i take issue. most of the past went into enriching the top 20% of populations, not more broadly. the jury is out on the tax issue. >> issue of trade, you would think big businessmen, often big trade jers not so much. >> not so much....

Romney now says he wants to slash. so basic history tells us that the trickle-down theory is a bust. >> sam, there's two floors to your argument. number one, according to the study, the average guy would pay -- >> it's not sam's argument. >> even if you -- even if you are a trickle down guy, to the guy going to the polls, you're not voting in theory. you're voting what does your pocketbook look like in the next year, two years, four years. it is an argument that is thin. >> my point is this, the romney campaign will say listen, we're trying to slash taxes across the board. everyone's going to ...

Numbers to the extent that, you know, people are focused on this. clearly at the moment why those haven't improved yet for the president. i thought greenberg's polls suggesting that round in family homes as people are looking for work, still filling their cars with ever increasing gas, things are not looking as good as we here might think they are, you know, the numbers suggest they should be. >> and the president has a very difficult -- there's a difficult dance. because on one hand, you want to say things are getting better. the numbers are improving, there are indicators out there that thin...