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Of state security, one of the most important officials. there was a killing of five of his subordinates, ulcers of things indicating problems of the top of the north korean military. this means that this guy has a low threshold of risk, a very different risk calculus than we think you should have. >> eric: he's got a twitchy trigger finger so to speak. what are military options? >> there actually very limited. in the demilitarized zone, 15 artillery pieces and north korea all pointing 30 miles south of 10 million populated city called seoul korea. every word game we've done, i spent six years ...

I'm not saying he has an itchy trigger finger. no reason to believe that yet. but during the campaign he talked rather loosey-goosey about nuclear weapons. he seemed to have the idea that you have this ordnance to use it, not as deterrence, but to use it. now there seems to be a growth in his willingness to use it. we'll see. i see syria. i see all this talk about north korea. i worry about the dots connecting at some point with activity. >> the thing here, though, is what's it all going to lead to? >> what's theansw? >> but that's the question. real what is the foreign policy underpinning >> ...

Overseas of russia and russian agents, and they just caught trump people talking to them. that is a very different situation. i think if we want to talk about recklessness, this president needs to pause before he exercises his itchy trigger finger that keeps getting him into trouble. >> sandra: chris, it does seem to keep coming back to the twitter, on both sides of the aisle, it does seem like, and i know that bret baier just asked mike pence about that just why cannot may become a code does not have been brought about differently than just boldly put out on twitter? that has been an ongoing ...

Other investigations conducted overseas of russia and russian agents, and they just caught trump people talking to them. that is a very different situation. i think if we want to talk about recklessness, this president needs to pause before he exercises his itchy trigger finger that keeps getting him into trouble. >> sandra: chris, it does seem to keep coming back to the twitter, on both sides of the aisle, it does seem like, and i know that bret baier just asked mike pence about that just why cannot may become a code does not have been brought about differently than just boldly put out on twi...

Under who it was that certain detainees got released. >> shannon: but, mo, this has to be a gift to the left, that conversation about gitmo, gets lost 25 thinking, this is another "saturday night live" skit. >> yeah, if you want to have a conversation, a debate over gitmo policies, totally legit. we should have that debate, we should have that conversation. but because of this presidents itchy trigger finger, he keeps feeding into a narrative that i think it is borne out by the fact that he doesn't know the fact, that he is willing to play fast and loose with the truth, when you look at the pa...