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Abby: he also, he also suggested the troops should be armed. we didn't play it because we asked there have been reports they wouldn't be armed, we weren't sure -- pete: how could they not be? abby: he would say they were much better off -- ed: someone crosses the border and provokes them, someone gets shot. pete: it's true, but you've got these ms-13 cartels, drug cartels, you've got to have the ability to defend yourself if you're a national guardsman down at the border. he said they were armed then, they should be armed now. we're going to talk to the brigadier general, tracy norse, she's th...

This point. does it fit right? we had it measured for you. ed: actually -- it turn the out that it actually -- abby: that's nice. [laughter] [applause] pete: ed, you earned it, brother. [laughter] you earned it. if i'd known a jacket was in play, i might have lined that putt up a little more directly. ed: it's masters sunday, so i'm going to wear it. oh, wait, maybe it wasn't concern. [laughter] wait, there was a hankie. pete: maybe ed knew about this. and i didn't at all. abby: well, congratulations, ed. ed: we did set him up. all right, we have a lot of news. i can't bask in glory all day. p...

Ed: i had a blue jacket, abby and i were in on a joke our producers, and i said i'll wear a green tie, i don't want to wear a green jacket, and abby said, wait a second, it's sunday. abby: looked all over the city yesterday -- ed: i called, i finally found it at brooks brothers, you get the credit even though i paid full price on madison avenue, and they had a green jacket. all these people were telling me you can't get the masters jacket, it's trademarked -- abby: but if you tell them you won the masters -- ed: i won, fair and square. one guy at ralph lauren, he said, i can get it in three we...

Goods-producing jobs, manufacturing, construction. i just talked about home builders. those are jobs that black folks are getting, hispanic folks are getting, and they pay more than or some of the jobs that were being created during the great recession. pete: will the president get credit for that? >> i don't think so. but you know what? at the end of day, i think people though are going to feel better about themselves. we already see it in a whole lot of different surveys -- abby: that's what matters. >> the most important thing is that the average mesh feel -- average american feels good abo...