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To get their people out, the flock out, the congregations out to vote against this gay marriage thing and that turned that case. >> constitutional amendments were used against battering rams against progressives -- >> we thought north carolina would be hurt by that. >> first of all, 85 senators voted for doma including joe biden, joe lieberman, chris dodd, tom daschle, barbara -- >> keep going, i love this. >> mikulski. all the liberals. >> john kerry did not vote for it. ted kennedy did not vote for it, but the majority -- 85 senators voted for it and now we're in a position -- >> what did do...