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A Group Swimming in the river, the harbor had a dark. You had to know which way the current was so you could walk out of there. We used to take a popsicle and throw it in the river to see which way the current was going. Fashion is such that you have to Pay Attention to the current, its always moving. I cant control that river. Just see which way the current is going and then you dive in. When you talk about fashion, you have to talk about hiphop. The style of hiphop has always been more progressive and cooler than anything else in the industry. Hiphop is a culture, its about music, its about ...

Oversaturation of elements of hip-hop culture. >> anytime you have any form of true self expression in our, once corporate america finds out how they can seize it, make money off of it, they do. >> in street, where authenticity has everything. i believe that the tipping point was when everybody realized it was a commercial opportunity, and once ambition is money, that's the level of the craft, everything changes. >> you look at your data, 5 to 7 years >>. when urban brands aren't doing as, well they just say they want to be done with everybody. the process is totally moving in the other direct...