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Him he refers to trump as the boss. he wants to be known as trump's conciliary. he's really proud of that sort of language. and when the topic of, you know, the $130,000 check to stormy daniels came up, he's like, well, you would do that for a family member. you would do that for your father or your sister. but of course donald trump is not his father or sister. but this seems to be the badge of honor that he craves more than anyone else. you have to slightly ask or i'd ask myself what has donald trump done for michael cohen in return? he didn't make him ceo of the campaign. he hasn't brought ...

Testimony said that the president asked for loyalty before firing him. he's not the first one to say that. what do you think trump's fixation with loyalty is about? >> well, my impression in sort of getting to know michael cohen over the last year has been that, you know, loyalty doesn't even do the word justice. he is bafflingly loyal to donald trump. i've always felt when talking to him he refers to trump as the boss. he wants to be known as trump's conciliary. he's really proud of that sort of language. and when the topic of, you know, the $130,000 check to stormy daniels came up, he's like...

You have to slightly ask or i'd ask myself what has donald trump done for michael cohen in return? he didn't make him ceo of the campaign. he hasn't brought him to the white house, but michael cohen, you know, craves -- you know, he wants to be known as the number one loyal guy to trump. what is that about? >> and to your point he's referred to himself as trump's conciliary. he's described himself, it means that if someone does something mr. trump doesn't like, i do everything in my power to resolve to mr. trump's benefit. if you do something wrong, i'm going to come at you, grab you by the ne...