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They want to drill more. and they want to repeal health care reform. that's their jobs plan. >> new data suggests most americans -- >> wait, wait. i'm sorry. >> you said you weren't going to say it. >> i've gone after republicans. i've also said obama was clearly not as qualified as hillary clinton or joe biden to be president. so i'm going after both sides but here how can this president, mark halpern, say that all those republicans, they are of wall street. you occupy wall street. he brought in wall street to run his economic team. he brought in larry summers. he brought in people that there...

Populist, their positive agenda does not stand scrutiny. i think they are focusing on the wrong target, on wall street as a kind of populist issue rather than pennsylvania avenue as a governing issue. >> you agree president obama is playing with fire embracing the occupy wall street crowd? >> i think it is very hard if you represent the incumbent and the government to essentially throw in your lot with a bunch of people who are populist and running against incumbency and government. it is very hard to straddle that. >> hum. >> mark, you were down there. >> i don't totally agree. i think if you...

And how the banks are going about foreclosing and whether it's the right way. they said look. we know you have us on servicing but we know -- this is the analogy, joe. when someone comes to me and they're involved in a home improvement scam and they say we know you got us on the fact we put fake gutters on the house but you know what? we also did the foundation and work on the roof but we don't want you to look at that. we'll settle you with you on the gutters. >> don't look at the foundation. >> but don't investigate the roof or the foundation. >> yeah. >> that's what's happening and why here...

>> that's a joke, david. >> it's a joke. >> okay. thank you very much. >> 6:00 on the east coast. welcome everyone. welcome to "morning joe" on tuesday, october 18th. with us on the set cnn and "time" magazine senior analyst mark halpern and also the president of the council on foreign relations richard haas with us. good to see you as well. >> good morning. >> life actually imitates art because cain actually did call his tax plan a joke. >> what? >> in an op-ed a year ago. >> no. >> herman cain said the sales tax, he said that was a joke. >> but he's grown. >> he's evolved. >> that was 11 mon...

>> no. we begin with another presidential poll that has herman cain surging ahead. cain is in second place with 25% support. a 19-point jump from a month ago. mitt romney remains in first place with 26%. rick perry's fall continues as he drops 19 points down to 32%. the extra attention cain received in recent days led to a more critical look at his proposals including his 999 plan boasting a simplified 9% business flat tax, 9% individual flat tax, and 9% national sales tax. >> a national sales tax. wow. that is quite an idea. >> that is. >> sort of european but quite an idea. >> now some conse...