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Right to gather and share their views, i will defend that because that's their freedom. but, this seems to be verging on them trying to have a rerun as they make false claims about what they want to happen to these indictees and prisoners. i am curious on what you think we should keep in mind here? >> i think we should keep in mind that the first amendment of the u.s. constitution was meant to protect free speech, free speech was supposed to be about truth finding. what's so dangerous right now is not the mere fact that we have white supremacists who want to spill hate and lies. we have lawmak...

And one-sided." complaining that about not being able to see the evidence or the transcripts, or even given a chance to rebuttal. they claim governor cuomo was "ambushed by the report." even though he authorized the investigation. >> there has been no open-mindedness fact finding in this case for the investigation was conducted to support a predetermined narrative. this was not an exercise in truth finding. >> the press conference came on the same day a criminal complaint was filed by an unidentified executive assistant pictured here who claimed governor cuomo groped her multiple times in the ...

Given access to the evidence. here, instead of acting as independent fact-finders, the investigators acted as prosecutors, judge and jury. on tuesday, the attorney general and the investigators called a press conference. within minutes of that very carefully choreographed press conference, there were calls for the governor to step down. we weren't given, as mr. fishman told you, any advanced notice about when the report would be released, its findings, a chance to respond to errors, inaccuracies. that was intentional. this was not an exercise in truth finding.

Public?" >> that part i can agree to, yes. >> there's an awful lot of ambiguity as to what the president was asking for. what is "the right thing?" or to tell them to clear things up? was that i do aid to ukraine? the president insists no. i think what ambassador sondland -- you see someone engaged in self protection but leaving ambiguity there, so maybe someone like jim jordan can drive a truck through it. >> that's an interesting point you make. "what do you know about what ukraine knew about the old?" he said, "very vague, could have been politico, could have been rudy giuliani. it would be...

>> so any testimony has to be consistent with what was already said -- >> it seems to. >> it can't be -- >> this is why it calls for an independent investigation. otherwise we get a he said/she said at the end of the day and then nothing is advanced as a matter of truth finding. >> so congressman, in terms of how it has been handles, how it is being handled, since, you know, republicans are in the driver's seat in the senate judiciary committee, the president showed restraint but then ended up commenting and, you know, saying if it was as bad as she describes, why didn't all these things happe...