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To even out its education. the educational system in the country is totally uneven. there's nobody on cable news, there's no public servant out there that says, okay, here's a 25-year plan for infrastructure, a 25-year plan for education. no one is doing that. you know why? because they're staying in power by doing this. >> that's right. >> because they're turning off a lot of very smart people. they may watch you for entertainment but says this blows, i'm not going to go vote. so they exit the system and that keeps these extremes in power, chris. >> if i was more extreme, i'd be more entertai...

And he probably shouldn't continue to ramp up racially tinged rhetoric, because it just stokes fear and makes you look at the falsehoods a little differently, especially with him using this kind of word. my next guest, anthony scaramucci, former white house communications director, understands the president's head-to-mouth relationship very well. look at his new book, "trump, the blue collar president." clever, provocative. congratulations on the book. >> thank you. >> all the way at the back of the book we find chris cuomo after jesse "the joke" waters. >> fox sells books, so thank you, fox. ...

What i really think it is, is stick a finger in the eye of the elites. when the journalists are looking at his -- i guess "the washington post" says 5,000 or 6,000 lies and they're like a proctor inside of a school, like a catholic school that you or i went to and they're calling you out on it, he's laughing at them because he knows that his base really doesn't care about that stuff. >> they don't care if he tell the truth? >> i don't think they care if he tells the truth. i think they care more about the substance of his policy and they care more about is he making america safer and giving me...

Zone. i'm out of time. ana, thank you very much. >> protecting borders -- >> 5,000 lies. you're not supposed to remember 5,000 lies. >> when you don't forget them, they wind up taking root. >> protecting borders is sensible nationalism. >> no one said it wasn't. anthony scaramucci wrote a book about why trump won, why the base loves him, and why calling out lies won't beat the president. that's got test written all over it. we're happy for the new book. let's have some robust dialogue with our friend, anthony. explore more with a guaranteed 4pm checkout at over 1,000 fine hotels and resorts....

He knew nothing about that take on the term. >> you know, they have a word, it sort of became old-fashioned. it's called a nationalist. and i say really? we're not supposed to use that word. you know what i am? i'm a nationalist, okay. i'm a nationalist. >> so again, maybe he just thought he was like pushing back on political correctness or something. i don't know. no one has ever accused the president of being an ardent student of history, so let's hope he is clueless on this, and let's remind all of us what the term means. now, the best way to do this is to tell you what it does not mean. it...