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America -- >> they've got space in yemen, i agree with you. not looking to do that. >> that's one consideration. if we keep doing what we're doing, like secretary matis said we're not winning in afghanistan. this is a scaled down rational approach that puts unrelenting pressure on the terrorist groups and strengthens afghans doing it. doesn't require american soldiers driving around getting killed like last week. >> is $10 billion the cost to simply keep a lid on it? when you say a bankruptcy trustee, that makes sense but where is the turnaround guy and where's the strategy that she's we're go...

When you look add the the ohio poll, there was a story in the washington post where obama and romney are splitting seniors. one of the people who spoke. >> romney should be ared. >> he should be way ahead. you know what, he just wants to help out his fellow rich brothers and not me. that's dangerous. >> i think joe scarborough this morning has summarized how hard it is for republicans this morning. let's listen to joe. >> wait a second. romney, ryan! there we go. that's great. thank you. >> oh, sweet jesus. >> how do you fix that? >> you don't fix it. >> he is a great businessman, great turnar...

I shouldn't be so hard on you. i shouldn't bring up newt gingrich. >> it's just irrelevant. >> it doesn't even matter. >> it's irrelevant. what do the catholics say? holy mary mother of god? >> it's not going to work. >> pray for our sinners in thy hour of peace. >> it's not going to work. it's too late for that. >> it seems to me -- except what would happen, it's the end of "godfather 2," i'm fredo on the back of the boat about to get it in the back of my head. >> how do you fix that? >> you don't fix it. sadly, i said this about mitt romney's a great man. he is. he's a great father, a great ...

And you know, in some respects, he's right. he was the one on tape. he was the one who said what he said. the candidate holds responsibility. and it would be very weird for mitt romney to blame someone else when he's projected this aura about him as the sort of, you know, the controlling ceo type, the person who can run a good, tight ship and then he blames surrogates. it makes sense that he blames himself. richard's right. there's no way to say that he's not trailing. i get that they're looking at national tracking polls, but this isn't really a national race. this is a race in eight or so ve...

To explain why he could win over some hillary clinton voters. mitt romney was essentially staying true to his core beliefs. simon? >> well there's a lot there, jon. jon: i know. i'm sorry. >> i will do it really quickly. first of all, if you're evaluating whether barack obama is succeeding winning voters he clearly is. he is winning in pennsylvania, he is winning in ohio. he is winning in michigan. he is winning with throughout the industrial heartland which he was describing in this election against mitt romney. that is just polling data, right. that is objective fact. second thing i think th...