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Republic candidate which is one of the reasons why you hear all this talk about marco rubio. >> bill: let's get back to president obama. if this, indeed, is his mind set that his coalition is the end quote the asen deansy, is he going to govern in a different way. that is going to be very confrontational. i'm going to do what you want and i don't care what you think. >> he did that for two years, remember and we had the 2010 midterm was the worst defeat of incumbent party in the congress that we had at least in the house of representatives as we had had for a very long time indeed it was a mas...

Has been used by republicans as a turnout machine basically to stoke fear and get their people to the polls and it's been very successful in a lot of elections. i'm sure it will be hard for a lot of in particular members of the house republican caucus to give that up. and i do think that the idea of the sort of vote no hope yes model you are talking about here used in the fiscal cliff deal, it's treacherous because if you have most of the rank and file voting against the bill then you have a real opportunity for those who do vote for the bill to be labeled as rhinos, primaried by the tea party...

There's nothing racial about this, it's about your perception of your own economic self-interest and i think the-- there is no evidence in this election that the republican party's ideas on tax efficiency or certainly even medicare and social security reform did not hurt them among elderly voters at all in florida. that those ideas are not the problem in this campaign. it had more to do with a technical way that mitt romney ran that campaign, and the pt overwhelmingly, the power of the obama turnout machine. but the republicans should not, i think, stand back and say, how do we reengineer our ...

Republicans got a, you know, put on their boxing gloves and get over it. >> oh, yeah. >> paul: so what? you know. >> i won, you know, suck it up. >> i agree. this is the new benchmark the way you win a presidential campaign. no question about it, it's too bad, but that's the way it is. i want to elaborate on one of kim's points. the turnout machine, it did not materialize after the convention in august. we need to pay a lot more attention to the so-called obama ground game. in some ways, trying to talk about this in neutral terms, it's somewhat analogous to a corporation's marketing campaign f...

Republicans got a, you know, put on their boxing gloves and get over it. >> oh, yeah. >> paul: so what? you know. >> i won, you know, suck it up. >> i agree. this is the new benchmark the way you win a presidential campaign. no question about it, it's too bad, but that's the way it is. i want to elaborate on one of kim's points. the turnout machine, it did not materialize after the convention in august. we need to pay a lot more attention to the so-called obama ground game. in some ways, trying to talk about this in neutral terms, it's somewhat analogous to a corporation's marketing campaign f...