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I'm teasing. >> well, he also then -- he also of course will counter that, you know, he's been on the receiving end of those talking points himself. but he knows what can get done. and listen. this is a guy who spent more time campaigning in swing congressional districts. >> and ironically, ali vitali, the -- it's clear that defending obama care is a net positive with swing voters. disrupting healthcare is what scares swing voters. is it possible if elizabeth warn's twar warren's the nominee, that donald trump and the republican party become the party of obama care? >> look. maybe. i mean, i d...

Defeat donald trump. i don't think trump is going to be as easy to beat as many democrats think. if we choose policies out of touch with the mainstream, out of touch with middle america, out of touch with the districts that we need to win, the swing districts, in order to assemble this coalition, then that's going to be a problem for us in the general election. i'm not sure why people on the deeds bail stage were so afraid to teenage on senator war warren. senator is a friend of mine, we agree on some, and disagree on other policies. i've criticized bernie sanders on some of the other policies...